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goodnight, everybody thank you so much. [ cheers and applause we got this. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> announcer: tonight, on "late night with seth meyers," alicia vikander, creators and stars of "pen15," maya erskine and anna konkle an all new "closer look. featuring the 8g band with fred armisen and w, s >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers and this is "late night. we are hoping you're doing well tonight. let's get to the news. during a press conference last night, president trump refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses to former vice president joe biden and said, quote, "we'll have to see what happens.

"see what happens" for someone who wants to be a dictator, you sure sound like a spectator. you are coming off like ryan seacrest on "american idol." "we'll see what happens after the break. i think the mistake was phrasing the question that way. you should have asked, if joe biden wins, do you commit to playing even more golf that's right, president trump refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power if he loses to former vice president joe biden, and the "new york times" put it on page a-15 do you guys not realize what a big deal this is one time hillary sneezed and you released a special edition white house coronavirus coordinator dr. deborah birx has reportedly told aides that she is considering resigning due to her distress with the current state of the virus task force. the current state? your boss was telling people to shoot up bleach months ago you sound like someone who is on season 4 of "lost" saying, "maybe it will start making sense soon you've got to stick it out." president trump gave a speech in charlotte, north carolina,

today. said trump, "i love charlotte. in fact i consider myself a charlatan. ian, the writer who wrote that joke probably finished it, cracd said, "i've done it. i've written the perfect joke. either that or baked a loaf of bread for one of his cats. [ laughter ] he is a weird -- he's a weird fella. set a new standard with the charlatan joke, though we will all be chasing that for the rest of the year a judge ruled yesterday that president trump's son eric must answer a subpoena ordering him to testify in the new york attorney general's probe into the trump organization finances, but it will probably still be a while before we get any answers. "raise your right hand your other right that's your leg. amazon ceo jeff bezos announced earlier this week his foundation will open its first preschool called the bezos academy big deal

netflix has been running a preschool in my living room for months president trump addressed the national catholic prayer breakfast yesterday in a prerecorded speech of course, if he was catholic, he would have been reassigned to a new country by now according to a new study, hawaii is the happiest state. that story again, hawaii is the state furthest away from the rest of america. the makers of reese's candy announced yesterday they will be offering peanut butter cups with pretzels, which is frankly more helpful than anything the democrats are offering and finally, "rolling stone" magazine has released an updated list of the 500 greatest albums of all time. "but i haven't made 500 albums," said kanye west. and that -- you guys, that was the monologue. we got a great show for you tonight. oscar-winning actress alicia vikander is here to talk about her new film "the glorias. plus, the creators and stars of "pen15," which is back for its second season on hulu. it's such a funny show maya erskine and anna konkle will join us

but, before we get to all of that, in one of the most chilling moments of his presidency -- and there have been a few -- donald trump refused to commit to a peaceful transition of power, as republicans formulated a plan to steal the election through the courts for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ >> seth: we're as close as we have ever been to losing our democracy and watching our government transform into an autocratic regime. it's happening right in front of our eyes, right now. you don't need to wait for trump to roll down pennsylvania avenue on a tank and green fatigues with a long chin beard, especially since if he did try to grow one, he'd probably just look like a very sick chihuahua. i think my dog is dying. he is drinking water no, just like diet coke. like ten -- ten a day. the president is falsely claiming the election is rigged. the gop chair in pennsylvania told "the atlantic," on the record, that they're considering a plan to steal the state's electoral votes if they lose, and republicans are basically announcing their intention to use the courts to overturn the election results

and on top of all of that, the president last night refused to commit to a peaceful transfer of power, effectively threatening violence unless ballots are thrown out and he is allowed to stay in office >> will you commit to making sure that there is a peaceful transferal of power after the election >> well, we're gonna have to see what happens you know that i have been complaining very strongly about the ballots. and the ballots are a disaster and -- >> i understand that, but people are rioting. do you commit to making sure that there's a peaceful transferal of power? >> i know, i know. we want to have -- get rid of the ballots and you'll have a very transfer -- we'll have a very peaceful -- there won't be a transfer, frankly, there will be a continuation. >> seth: all right, i'll take it back, he probably will grow that dictator beard "do you like it? i comb it with a fork. here's a little pasta twirl. so, trump is threatening violence unless we get rid of the ballots. he is threatening a coup d'etat. even though i'm sure he has no idea what the phrase coup d'etat means. he probably thinks it's a lyric from "moulin rouge!" "voulez-vouz coucher coup d'etat, ce soir? we're in a truly treacherous

moment, yet we can still enjoy a "moulin rouge!" joke our democracy hasn't been healthy in a long time, but now it's in a death spiral the president is threatening violence if he loses armed right wing militias are roaming the streets in louisville intimidating protesters the president is glorifying state violence against journalists. just a few months ago, he called for overwhelming force to suppress protests, labeled democratic cities anarchist jurisdictions, and his campaign, called for an army of supporters to join an election security squad. if this were happening in any other country, you would expect to see pro regime militants, driving through the streets in pickup trucks, attacking people and waving flags and ah, god dammit the only thing missing from that clip is a foreign correspondent for the bbc in a flack jacket. "the scene here is tense, as pro regime forces clash with dissidents -- and i'm sorry i'm just getting word the regime has sent its armada of jet skis and party boats to blockade the port, leaving nothing in their wake but empty aluminium cans of natural light or as it's called in the local vernacular, natty light.

yes, we did go well out of our way to say aluminium." but don't worry. don't worry, guys, the white house press corps is ready to step in to its role as the guardian of democracy in this perilous moment for the republic >> prince harry and meghan markle chimed in on the u.s. election and essentially encouraged people to vote for joe biden i wanted to get your reaction to that >> seth: hmm, i don't have my glasses on was that woodward or bernstein does "us weekly" have a white house correspondent? although i bet even "us weekly" would drop its harry and meghan coverage for this. seriously, if the president threatens to destroy american democracy by seizing power through violence, maybe scrap your pre-planned question about harry and meghan you need to be able to, you know, pivot on the fly what if at his next press conference, trump takes out the red button and threatens to nuke seattle unless they give him $1 billion sir, i'd love to hear more of your thoughts about nuking seattle, but "keeping up with the kardashians" is ending do you have a comment on that? and i've got to ask, why aren't more elected democrats acting like this is the emergency it is they are about as effective as

the receptionist on "law and order" who says "hey, you can't go in there," while they're going in there democrats should be grinding the gears of government to a halt until the republican party vows to respect the election outcome and commit to a peaceful transition of power. they should be holding public televised hearings about this. the only person i heard talk about it is bernie sanders >> what do we do if trump loses and he won't leave office? >> what we have got to do is work in a number of ways and one of the ways is -- i'm working on this right now -- is to demand that both the house and the senate hold hearings, right now, to educate the american people about what might happen and to develop antidotes to that. so we've got to educate the american people about what is in front of us, and rally the american people to tell donald trump that too many people in this country have fought and died to defend american democracy, and if and when you lose, you are getting out of office.

>> seth: the best part of any bernie interview during the pandemic are his zoom backgrounds. it's like when you use the computer at your grandparent's house, and their desktop still has the default background from windows. his backgrounds always look like the cover of a nature sounds cd. "birds singing, crickets chirping, the sound of a babbling brook, as you gently drift off to sleep now go to sleep, cd over, i got work to do." but he is absolutely right democrats should be holding highly-publicized hearings about this they should be slowing down senate business, doing everything possible to force republicans to commit to honor the results of the election, because trump clearly will not he has said as much repeatedly over the last few weeks, and yet, we all just kind of sigh and move on with our lives whenever he screams something about mail-in ballots or rigged elections, we're all like tourists rolling up our car windows in times square. "honey, quick, buzz lightyear is coming this way and for some reason, he has a giant sword." but trump has made it very clear for months now, that he will not consider the election legitimate if he loses, based on his made up claims of mail-in voting fraud.

>> universal is going to be a disaster, the likes of which our country has never seen it'll end up being a rigged election or they will never come out with an outcome. they will have to do it again. and nobody wants that. and i don't want that. you won't know the election results for weeks, months, maybe years after. maybe you will never know the election result, and that's what i'm concerned with it will be fixed, it will be rigged people ought to get smart. it will be the greatest rigged election in history. it will be the greatest fraud ever perpetrated the only way we are going to lose this election is if the election is rigged remember that. it's the only way we are going to lose this election. >> seth: you think the only way you could possibly lose isf 'si? you haven't cracked 50% in the polling average all year that is like k-fed saying the only reason his album didn't go platinum was because the "billboard" charts were rigged against popozao. "we love 'popozao,' don't we folks? you are hearing it more and more." you haven't been ahead of biden in the polling average once.

you lost the popular vote by three million, and your approval numbers have been underwater since you launched your campaign you're not even at 100% among trumps you're even lagging among old people in florida. that's your key constituency you are an old person in florida. that's like hoda and jenna finding out they are losing the key demo of stay-at-home wine enthusiasts. and yet trump keeps insisting that states are sending unsolicited mail-in ballots to everyone that could easily be filled out fraudulently, despite the fact that this basically never happens and would be very easy to detect >> when you see them cheating with those ballots, all of those unsolicited ballots, those millions of ballots, you see them any time you do, report them to the authorities. the authorities are waiting and watching >> seth: first of all, they're not unsolicited, they're ballots. they send them to registered voters they're not aol trial cds. "yo, aol, bless. mind if i slip a 'popozao' in there? i'm having some distribution issues." we thought it was very important to do a lot of comedy today

about 2006's "popozao. which is -- i looked it -- it's a lyric. in portuguese, it means "bring your ass on the floor and move it real fast." guy was trying to do like a nice rosetta stone to music, and here i am giving him a hard time. i'm assuming that it meant the dance floor, and not the senate floor. "we oughta -- as soon as we get the nominee from donald trump, we gotta popozao." "i would love to --" [ laughter ] second, donald trump -- that's who we were talking about. [ light laughter ] "we oughta popozao, post haste." please, don't tell your supporters to report anything to the authorities. the last thing we need is crazed trump supporters sifting through our mail looking for fraudulent ballots. "this has foreign writing on it. this is a fraudulent ballot. "sir, that is an italian take-out menu. "yeah, but who they are taking out? answer me that."

and now, trump is telegraphing that if he gets his way and installs a new supreme court justice before the election, the conservative six-three super majority will invalidate all those ballots and declare him the winner, even if he loses >> i think having a four-four situation is not a good situation. now, we're counting on the federal court system to make it so that we can actually have an evening where we know who wins, okay not where the votes are going to be counted a week later or two weeks later. we need nine justices. you need that, with the unsolicited millions of ballots that they're sending, it's a scam, it's a hoax, everybody knows that and the democrats know it better than anybody else. so, you are going need nine justices up there. i think it's going to be very important. because what they are doing is trying to sow confusion in everything else. because paper ballots are very simple, whether they counterfeit them, forge them, do whatever you want >> seth: what are you talking about?

what you're describing makes no sense. how would it even work they send one ballot per voter and most states use barcodes to track ballots. they're election ballots not pages from the burn book ♪ >> seth: who's doing the supposed forging of these paper ballots you think so-called anarchists are going door to door collecting ballots so they can write in the name of their favorite candidate, joe biden? because anarchists notoriously love the 77-year-old centrist from delaware. biden loves trains, that's how you know he is not anarchist trains are the opposite of anarchy. they are literally on the rails. try hopping on the acela express from d.c. to boston and taking a call on the quiet car. ten ivy league jds will descend on you in a fury and stuff you in the overhead rack second, democrats -- democrats are sowing confusion you sow confusion just by opening your mouth no one can even follow what you're saying. here's a collection of real things donald trump has said recently that i guess are supposed to be human english >> first lady, how'd you like

the crowd? sir, i didn't see it take away your guns, destroy your second amendment, no religion, no anything. hurt the bible, hurt god that was called action not with the mouth, but in actual fact. they go out and buy tuna fish and soup you know that, right tuna fish, they can really rip it, right? and that hits you. no, it's true. bumblebee brand tuna, and you can throw that soccer, you could put a curve on it, you can do whatever the hell you want >> seth: jesus it's like the end of "2001: a space odyssey" when they disconnect hal "tuna fish not with the mouth, first lady, sir, sir, sir, why do you hurt god? tuna fish. you can really rip it. god, tund. god, hurt the tuna tuna, tuna god. popozao. that's it. hat trick. seriously, someone give this man a c.a.t. scan. if only we could look inside his head i'm pretty sure we'd see his brain is mostly -- >> tuna fish and soup. >> seth: and the people around

trump, the leaders of the institutional republican party have also been explicit about their goal to have a conservative supreme court supermajority in place to decide a so-called contested election, which again, is only a consideration right know because they are the ones falsely claiming there will be rampant mail ballot fraud. >> i think it is critical that the senate takes up and confirms that successor before election day. we cannot have election day come and go with a four-four court. a four-four court that is equally divided cannot decide anything and i think we risk a constitutional crisis if we do not have a nine justice supreme court, particularly when there is such a risk of a contested litigation and a contested election >> seth: you are the ones threatening to contest the election ted cruz is like an arsonist saying, "we need to hire more also, you're suddenly concerned about a constitutional crisis now?

we have had four years of constant constitutional crisis with a president who obstructs justice, profits from his office, asks foreign governments to help him cheat in the election and unilaterally declares a state of emergency to build a dumbass wall on the southern border without congressional approval just last night he threatened violence if he loses and you were silent. senate republicans work less than that rich friend who is always posting pics on instagram from exotic locations. "hang gliding in angkor wat. #soblessed." "why do you have money again?" "i started a streaming service for skateboard fails." these guys are threatening a totally made up crisis then saying we need a conservative supermajority on the supreme court to resolve that made up crisis like, vice president mike pence who basically said that we need to rush to confirm a supreme court nominee to throw out all those pesky ballots from voters who don't like trump >> with all of the talk about universal, unsolicited mail-in balloting, where we see states around the country that are now extending the deadline, there is a possibility that election

issues may come before the supreme court in the days following the election and all the more reason why we should have nine justices on the supreme court to be able to resolve any issues that may arise then or on any other matter >> seth: they're just coming out and saying it. their plan is to steal the election through another bush v. gore, and mike pence's talent is that he can make a plan to steal an election sound like an instructional dvd for your new dishwasher. "first you need to ensure that your water source is turned all the way to the 'off' position. they're not hiding it because we all know what the game is. it's like if m. night shyamalan released a movie titled "twist ending." "oh, i see, so rudy was actually dead the whole time? in fact, republicans have been so open about the fact that they are rushing to lock in a rightwing supermajority on the court before the election, they're even claiming they already have the votes to confirm a nominee without even knowing who that nominee is. >> we've got the votes to co's replacement before the election.

we are going move forward in the committee. we are going to report the nomination out of the committee to the floor of the unites states senate, so we can vote before the election. we are going to have a process that you will be proud of. the nominee is going to be supported by every republican in the judiciary committee. and we have got the votes to confirm the judge -- the justice on the floor of the senate before the election and that's what's coming. >> seth: are you trying convince us or hypnotize us "you're getting very sleepy mister go ahead and close them. how can you already have the votes? you don't even have a nominee. in fact, i'm pretty sure trump's going to find out who his nominee is at the same time you guys are mitch mcconnell and the federalist society are going pick a name off a list and then trump is going to find out when he shows up to the press conference like an episode of "love is blind." and in that case, sure, i mean, i hope he nominates jessica, just because i would love to see her confirmation hearings. "this whole th questions.

ah, "love is blind." you'll always been my first quarantine show. it's not really that crazy though for all you know, trump could nominate one of his buddies like the demon sperm doctor, the my pillow guy "he knows all about cases, he makes some of the best pillowcases in the world i want to thank my friend sal gentile, who wrote me that joke you know, he usually he comes at me pretty hard, but every now and then, he writes me a -- writes me a zinger thank you, sal i know you're not going to vote for me, sal. in fact, on monday, trump called in for his weekly teletherapy session with the fox and friends and they joked that he would put one of them on the court >> well, i know you said that you're going to nominate a woman. that's very important to women who are voting in november for women's rights you said you - >> how about you, ainsley? i could nominate you, you know [ laughter ] you don't have to be - >> i did not go to law school. >> you don't have to be a lawyer, you don't have to be a judge. i could nominate you i think you'd sail through >> do you want to make some news right -- go ahead, make news right now, mr. president who's it going to be >> she would sail through like nothing. that would be probably a good idea that way at least we know for sure, she'll be approved

>> seth: ugh sounds like a creep at the yacht club hitting on a woman in front of her husband but sure, why not? "fox and friends" is already the president. why not make them the supreme court, too hell, just nominate a tv that plays fox news 24/7. also, it doesn't exactly inspire confidence when the president says, in order to be a supreme court justice, you don't have to be a lawyer, you don't have to be a judge "in fact, this is -- you don't have to be 18, which is why i'm strongly considering young sheldon. this is -- we have a lot of sheldons to choose from, which is why it's a great country. multiple -- multiple sheldons. this is the moment when elected democrats need to do everything possible to preserve our democracy -- hold hearings, slow down senate business, pour salt on ted cruz, whatever you have to do to get republicans to commit to honor the results of the election because right now, they're openly advertising their plan to steal it, while the president refuses to commit to a peaceful transfer of power. there's as much chance of trump admitting he lost on election night as there is of him saying - ♪ ♪ popozao

>> seth: i fully didn't know that was coming. this has been "a closer look." [ light laughter ] ♪ we'll be right back with more "late night. ♪ >> announcer: be sure to watch seth in prime time, for his "closer look" special on thursday, october 8th at 8:30/7:30 pm central, right here on nbc

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back there it is. our first guest tonight is an academy award-winning actress you know from films such as "the danish girl," "tomb raider" and "ex machina. she stars next in "the glorias," which will be released on september 30th on amazon prime video and digital. let's take a look. >> this year, the press has finally discovered a movement that has already been strong for several years now, and reported it as a small, privileged, rather lunatic event, instead of a major evolution in consciousness. >> everyone's consciousness, male and female, black and white. this is the year of women's liberation ♪ >> seth: please welcome back to the show alicia vikander how are you? >> i'm good. thank you for having me. >> seth: it's wonderful to see you again. very good gloria steinem voice i have to give you full credit there. that was very impressive >> yeah, i had to -- i mean, i do have a low voice, but i had to go even lower [ laughter ] yeah >> seth: you're -- this is a wonderful film where different

actors play gloria steinem over the course of her life, based on a book she wrote about her life. and you and julianne moore actually got to meet her i was lucky enough to have her on this show i mean, she is a titan, and it's very - i was nervous talking to her were you even more nervous knowing that you then had to take on the task of playing her? >> yeah, i was it was almost like - i had this question asked to me just earlier today -- "oh, how was it meeting her the first time?" and i suddenly remembered, i did actually meet her for lunch first before we met for rehearsals but i think i had almost had that as a blank because i was probably so nervous, i was just so kind of --you know, felt so privileged and honored to just be able to meet her. and of course, i managed to be a bit more calm when she saw me, julianne, and julie, our director, for rehearsals, which she was so generous to tell me that she could be part of.

and i think it was, yeah, quite a few times when julianne and i just looked at one another, couldn't really believe what was happening. but gloria, she was -- she's so incredibly generous and she kind of pushed us and said, "you know, please, just ask me anything." and in the end, we actually -- i was a bit embarrassed to ask, but she actually read some of the scenes from the script herself, as herself, which was pretty mind blowing. i even - i actually have some videos still on my iphone, which is a bit of a treasure. >> seth: that's an incredible advantage you got. when i used to have to do impressions on "saturday night live," i'd have to record it off the tv to actually get the person to do it for you. >> yeah, i mean, it was one of those things i was like, "is it okay? can i film you do this?" and she was like, "yeah, of course." and you know, we ended up getting like, i don't know, 20 videos. and i think, in the end, i think she kind of enjoyed it, but it was -- we each kind of started the scenes and then she was like -- stopped halfway.

and then she was like, "well, actually what happened at that event," or "actually what i did say," or that person said, and then it would always turn out to a much longer, exciting story. >> seth: that is fantastic you know, i think the interesting thing about gloria's life is she's always been timely and yet it seems more timely than ever to be making this movie now. you guys must have been aware of that while you were making it. >> of course i mean, a lot of the discussions that we had whilst filming was how excited we were, you know, for the release of the film and, of course, the topics that it brings up. and the fact that gloria, you know, from the beginning has been so supportive and wanted to be part of us releasing this film and we had big plans, so you know, hoping to be on tour now, and be on a bus and involve, you know, a lot of other women, do a lot of talking circles, which is something that gloria does a lot of

now, of course, the world looks very different but it was a very beautiful kind of communal feel that we got a few weeks ago when we -- i think we were, like, 16 women on a zoom call. gloria was one of them we kind of passed around, you know, the questions of "what can you do," and everyone had their own ideas of how, how we can kind of get the message out. so - >> seth: it's -- you talk about how hard it is to have the communal moments, but i have heard that one solution you have to the dinner party that we can no longer have, is to order the same take-out as the people that you zoom with. >> yeah! >> seth: this is a very, very novel idea >> it started as something i did -- you know, like, a sneaky thing i can -- you know, to a friend, i can kind of sent a text and like -- it happened once when my friend was stateside, so it was like a sunday so it ended up being a dinner for me and a brunch for my friend and i was like, "yeah, this is an address, you need to be there in half an hour.

and then, i had just called like another, i think it was mexican restaurant and the good thing is, like, mexican food, you know, you can kind of decide to order the same thing wherever you are so then we ended up having the exact same, you know, order, and i think we even had the same bottle of wine and then, you know, that's a great way of really forgetting about the fact that you are in front of a screen. the tough thing is, though, because if you've had a few glasses of wine, suddenly you have this amazing social event, suddenly you just like -- on, you know, go offline and then you feel really lonely [ light laughter ] suddenly, everything's gone. >> seth: right, and then nobody believes you when you say, "look, i was at dinner with a friend." they're like, "were you? you -- i want to congratulate you, as well, cause you got this in right under the wire. you got your driver's license in the uk >> i did i mean, literally a few days before lockdown. i mean, it's been -- it's been way too -- too long.

i promised myself i was going to do it before 30, but that didn't happen but now i have it and you know, i was born in sweden, which drive on the right side, so for me to have passed the test in the uk, in london, too, with all the black cabs, and everything and on the left side i feel like i'm hopefully not a huge danger when i go out there in the traffic >> seth: i think the good news is, no matter how bad a driver you are, there are so many other huge dangers right now that you're so -- you're comfortably at the bottom of the list. >> people will forget if i just run over them. >> seth: yeah, if you sideswipe somebody right now, that's the least of their problems.in more time to be able to get in a car and drive as fast as possible. soatns as well on the film. it's always so nice to see you >> so good to see you. thank you so much. >> seth: of course "the glorias" will be available on amazon prime video and digital next wednesday we'll be right back with maya erskine and anna konkle ♪

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♪ >> seth: our next guests are the emmy-nominated creators, writers, and stars of the fantastic hulu series "pen15." the second season is streaming now. let's take a look. >> to your left. your left. the other left >> anna, let me finish the line. >> hold. >> go on 32. >> hold! hold i said. hold hold hold >> we're just getting up >> hold. walk it through slowly so we can get the mark [ speaking in slow motion >> slower physical faster vocal >> i saw you backing away from sheila sheila was the - >> seth: please welcome back to the maya erskine and anna konkle. so nice to see you both. >> thanks for having us.

>> seth: for anyone silly enough not to watch this show, it's such a wonderful conceit you guys are not currently 13, but you are playing 13-year-olds in the year 2000, and the last time you were here, we talked about the fact that the other actors are playing their actual ages, and it's very intimidating to be around teenagers is it a little easier in year two? >> yeah, i feel like it's easier now, just because we've proved -- we've proven to them that we are adults because i think when i first met all the popular girls, i was in the bowl cut and the mustache and they were like, "who is this freak? and then, i -- and anna got to meet them in like high-waisted jeans and she looked hot and so they immediately accepted her. >> thank you >> no, you did they for so long didn't understand what i was. like what is this in front of me but now that they have seen the show out, i think they've

accepted us a little more. right? >> they know you're not a kid. and in fact, maya has -- i was gone for a week of shooting, and i came back, and i had been fully replaced by gabe, who is 14, and they were best friends they are best friends. he had aged up, you had aged down you both were about, i don't know, 15 [ light laughter ] >> 16. >> seth: so he didn't age that much up. >> yeah. and i -- i came back to gabe dumping a -- dillon dumping a bunch of pepper on the table between scenes and just being like, playing a game, jumping in, going, "guess the pepper what pepper am i thinking of?" and maya was like, "this is stupid." and then you'd pick the right one on the, i don't know, third try. >> you picked the pepper grain, and i thought it was a stupid game, and then i was like, "no, we're actually both really entertained by this. and that's - >> seth: that is a -- look, it's nice to find companionship on production sets. one of the most fun things about this show is you guys are

pulling from your own middle school experience. were there things that found their way into season two that you knew during season one that you wanted to find space for [ light laughter ] >> yeah, there's always -- there have always been these kind of iconic stories in our real upbringing, and we always pull from them, and there's -- it influences tons in the show. but there were -- there was an instance for me that i kept -- i feel like i kept avoiding fully putting it in. but it -- it made its way in it was just a different character. and i had a wonderful nickname growing up it was icebox. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and it still makes me feel weird, sadly, because that's what happens with ptsd and it -- the rumor was that i masturbated with an ice cube >> seth: sure. >> so it was a genius nickname that scarred me. and, i mean, i'm talking like after college, i'm waiting tables, and i'm getting a text

from a guy still, being like, "what are you doing, icebox? >> seth: oh! [ light laughter ] >> and i'm like, if the song "ice, ice, baby" came on, they'd be like, "icebox --" oh, it's going to be cold! it's going to be cold! and then i would die inside. and literally cry in front of them >> seth: well, of course you would. that is -- i'm having ptsd from that moment. and i just want to applaud the fact that you have empowered yourself by using it for good in this incredibly funny show >> i agree >> thank you so much >> really great. and you didn't give it to your character, we gave it to marissa, but it's still -- >> right but we got bad nicknames >> seth: that would be a little close to the bone. >> yeah, exactly i couldn't quite do it, yeah >> seth: do -- you mentioned, you know, the fact that, you know, you're making a show about a time in your lives that you might still know people from do people from your hometowns reach out often about the show >> if i've gone to any parties, like, with the popular kids from that time, i always -- you know, you always think like, "man --

when you're that age, you're like, "i'm going come out with a show i'm going be successful, and i'm going to show 'em. you know and so, i think every time -- i mean, i don't really think this, but -- >> you did it. >> the show kind of did well, and i thought when i saw them, it would be like, "wow i feel okay. like i have this show under my belt i'm good." and no it doesn't ever change anything. >> seth: it's the hardest -- the hardest thing in the world to outrun is your anxieties about high school. there's just no getting away from it. >> yeah, it never goes away. >> i ran into someone from middle school after -- and i'm from the east coast, so -- and now i'm in l.a and we ran in to each other and i hadn't seen her from high school - since high school graduation and she was like, "yeah, you have a show. and i immediately felt like i had done something wrong and i was like, "yeah, i don't know, i don't know how it happened it just -- it happened and life is weird like that.

and she was like, "yeah, i was talking to my cousin," who i also went to school with, "and she asked me if i'm going to watch it." i was like, "okay cool yeah, yeah, you don't need to. you don't need to. it's --" [ laughter ] >> so, it's like the same thing always >> seth: well, i sadly think, you might do it for like 20 years and never get over that hump [ light laughter ] but i want to stress to everyone -- you guys, it was the funniest idea when i first heard the concept for this show, but the execution is so far above and beyond the premise it is such a great show. it continues to blow my mind, and it's so great to see both of you again. >> good to see you >> good to see you thank you so much! >> seth: of course the second season of "pen15" is streaming on hulu. we'll be right back. ♪ i'm a verizon engineer. and i'm part of the team building... ...a powerful 5g experience for america. it's 5g ultra wideband, and it's already available in parts of select cities. like los angeles. and in new york city.

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